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Jeep JL & JT Rubicon Locker Sensor Failure Explained By ROCKRIDGE 4WD. Can it be avoided?
Disclaimer. Raw footage. I’m not a videographer. I have no aspirations to be a videographer. This is my quick attempt at explaining why and how the Jeep JL & JT Rubicon locker position sensors fail and how the locker sensor gets disrupted when the Jeep is being geared. All of this information is simply being put out there. If there is something I’m missing, please comment and help everyone learn. For now, I’m very confident in this information. Take it for what it’s worth. Maybe it will help customers or shops protect themselves from false claims.
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Test & Tune for new UTV Series at HRMC near Richland, WA
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Pandemic 4" LED Tail Light Light Install Tips
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ROCKRIDGE 4WD has officially given a thumbs up to DECKED for drawer capacity and our weight test. Great job on a quality USA made product!
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Customer Richard F rolled his 2001 Jeep TJ during one of our runs over at the LIBERTY, WA trail system 8/31/2014. We were at the top of the 327 trail near the "Lookout". This is the last obstacle before what is normally a peaceful lunch break. Well today, ended differently and thankfully Richard and his boy are OK! Now....what comes from his TJ?
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Here you will see multiple lights in action from VISION X USA. These are the latest and greatest amongst the industry. The main bar is VISION X's BRAND NEW XPI SERIES 51" BAR. This bar has the new IRIS reflector technology and has an INSANELY INTENSE SPOT PATTERN. They accomplish this by using a really deep reflector. This light will not dissapoint if you are looking to get incredible distance ...
Are your Shocks in good shape?
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Blown shocks off of an old Pro Comp show truck.
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Here is the latest and greatest HOT new accessory from ROCKRIDGE 4WD for your JK. The Flush Mount LED Tail Light conversion is full of aggressive looks, improved visibility!
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This is a review of the Air Operated OX Locker. The reliability and simplicity of the system is UN MATCHED! This system paired up with OX Lockers "DRIVE-AWAY LOCK" is absolutely the best system out there. Sorry for the scripted narration! :)
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Jeff & Matt foolin around on the Rock Pile at Evans Creek, WASHINGTON. This was Fall of 2012.
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Wurton Led Light Bar Review By Rockridge 4WD PART 1
Do the calipers, and rotors fit the tj. Axle shafts?
Are the axels bolt on or C clip?
What is the name of the sensor that is on the cad with the wiring harness on it
We need part numbers to eliminate hours of research
Try CR11800 or YMS40576S…I end up having to figure it out every time 😂
Excellent video. Maybe someone else could hold the camera next time.
Read my disclaimer LOL
So what does it mean if the z-locker doesnt fix it.
Whats the trick to getting that bearing off
I bought Z automotive bypass for front and rear and lockers still disengaged after loads, restart the car and it disappeared then problem again after lockers under loads. Please help!
The Z Auto sensors don't always work. I've found oil at every connection. Clean all connections well with electronics cleaner and then use dialectic grease. See if that helps.
So I installed the Z OEM in the front axle. (That's where I have oil leaking in the plug) But now my service axle light stays on instead of randomly going on and off. Does anyone have this issue or thoughts about this? Thinking about a direct wire to a new switch for a solution.
Is this why its referred to as trash lock?
HEY, I'M EXPERINCING THIS FOR THE SECOND TIME AND HAVING THE WARRANTY WORK FIX THE ISSUE. SOON MY WARRANTY WILL EXPIRE AND I DON'T REALLY WANT TO BUY ANOTHER CAR. HAS YOUR FIX HELD AND STILL WORKING? THANKS
Buy a spare sensor or get a Z Auto Harness.
Good info, thanks for sharing!
I had my gears changed by Rebel off road , they said it won’t void my warranty but it did
But it also happens to jeeps with stock gears
Correct. Happened to our personal JL Rubicon at 15k miles.
Is it safe to drive it like this?
@@Bad_Agent01 Its only a sensor that tells you if the locker is locked or not. And because its in fault state, it won't lock anyways. Makes no difference other than the light on the dash.
@@jeffharvey9437 thanks
There is an informative thread on JL wrangler forums how to inject electronic potting compound into those sensors. At 12K miles I potted both sensors on my 2019 JLUR and have peace of mind with new synthetic fluid and potted sensors. The sensors are Hall effect design that has been used in proximity sensors for decades. The sensor are made by TE Connectivity. Oil is not an electrical conductor and the video pointed out fresh oil seeping into them is not a problem, however the oil has tiny metal particulates that over time destroys the sensor electronics. The Z automotive bypass harness is probably a good remedy for many but I personally like to know the locker light is illuminated because it knows it's mechanically engaged with feed-back.
Correct, the metal particulates are the issue. The potting only seems to work if the sensor is not yet contaminated. I agree, I like the feed-back as well. The Z Auto sensors don't always work. I've found oil at every connection.
Still happens on stock and untouched 2020 JT in first 15K miles
Yep. Our 2020 JLR happened stock with less than 15K also. It was on a 3 hour drive.
The video is instructive. I'm a guy from Israel and I watched the video you made for the Rubicon differential lock Maybe you have an explanation of how the lock works, what moves the magnet, who pulls and presses. And what electrical signal is received from the position sensor
There is thread on JL forum on how to pot the sensors so that the oil doesn't get into the sensors.
Is this the same on a 2018 rubicon unlimited 4 door
Thanks for this. What's the "z harness" ? I've tried looking that up and don't see anything.
Zautomotive makes a locker bypass harness.
0:57 unreliable? LOL You put a cable in (that freezes up in snow/slush; I ran one for 3+ years) to ‘fix’ a VERY reliable oem axle disconnect. Nothing wrong with it. Just because it needs a new harness or vac motor after 25 years doesn’t mean it’s no good.
Do what you want. The best option is a 1 piece axle.
Why can't you clean the sensor while it's apart? Why would you not?
Have at it. Some do. Some also pot the sensor. The sensor “lid” is not meant to come off but it can. You would have to re seal it and maybe you can do a better job than the OEM.
My personal JL rear sensor is full of oil. It’s a 2020 with about 21k now. Since I’m not on a customer time line with it. I’m going to do just that and see if I can get enough info to maybe change the entire harness from the sensor to the chassis harness and do it right. If that happens I’ll make another video. I will likely make another video if I come up with something for the sensor alone. Ideally if you acquired a new unit from FCA that would be the time to “pot” the sensor.
thank you for that!
You're welcome!
Excellent explanation, Thank you.
GREAT EXPLANATION. JUST REGEARED MY 21 MOJAVE AND ABOUT 800 MILES LATER THE LIGHT CAME ON. I HAVE ORDERED THE Z AUTOMOTIVE LOCKER HARNESS.
Same.
So just buy a new sensor when re-gearing to save a headache
Ya it just doesn’t matter. It will come on eventually no matter what.
What hooks up on the Driver's side?
Nice video thanks
What's the part number for the smaller seal
Did you find it? I came up with YMS40576S
I was wondering if someone had a part number for this? I didn’t see it listed in any of their comments but I may have missed it so if someone could help me out that would be awesome!
Try YMS40576S. Just found out I got the weird one and I'm trying to verify... Let me know
Just FYI the cable is pulled away from the locker "Fork" with the control lever in the Jeep, then the little springs in the locker disengage the locker, they do not push the cable up the sheath. I went with air on my lockers with electric solenoids to switches and a C02 tank. I have a minimum of two tanks with me always and worse case scenario I can go with the drive away OR plumb it into my on board air used for tires.
The springs don't push the cable back. You pull the cable back with the lever.
So would it be full time 4wd after this?
To bad there is no OX locker for dana 70 Dana 80 corporate 14 bolt or any 11.5" axles
Do you have a fix for the 4wd light or do you forego it? Can the button actuator be remounted like on the 4wd shift lever so its pressed when the lever is pulled?
You can actually put a TJ 4wd indicator switch on the np231 of the YJ and wore it in to the old switch in the engine bay and it will work like factory
Bounced his head off the roll bar 😅
I forgot to add, aren't there two seals around the Shift Motor Housing? The original manual says to "add 5oz of GL 5 gear lube through the switch hole." If it was lubed with the main differential, why would we need to add additional oil? Just a bit confused here is all...And Thank You for taking the time and creating the video!
Curious, wouldn't another option be to simply turn the shift fork around, and forget about it, to save money.
I did something similar. The shift fork is held with a clip on the shaft. You can remove the clip, slide the shift fork to one end and put the clip back to pin it to the other end. That then locks it. I think removing this assembly is better overall for tough 4wd driving since it is a fail point but for regular 4wd work its fine. The only drawback is you don't get that 4wd light coming on which the cable kit will do for you.
So...We're not gonna talk about how this guy was prepared 5 years before anyone knew?
a cable can be tied,,an air cant. less crap hanging under vehicle the better,,detroit.
Irrelevant with push lock fittings and a small coil of line. Takes very little time to repair if needed. You are not going to tie a cable anyways.
My 89 XJ Had a bearing just inboard of the CAD housing that the old axle would ride on. The new axle was a tad bigger than the bearing bore. I had to remove the bearing. Not something I had seen on any how-to videos. Just a heads up to others.
How did you get the 4x4 light to work?
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Does Ox make lockers specific for circa 1990's to 2020 Suzuki Jimnys (Gen 4) though. ARB specifically markets to Jimnys and other non-Jeep vehicles. I personally am more impressed with Ox but seems like a they're only for Jeeps and USA market vehicles.
Unfortunately they do not. At one point they were trying to do a Toyota setup but nothing ever came from it.
"If it sounds like I'm reading from a couple pieces of paper, that's because uh well, I am". Honesty at its finest 😂
I believe your seals are in backwards.
4:10 well he doesn’t understand that he’s selling parts and labor to solve a non-problem, soooo… he’s not that interested in…stuff.
@@fishhuntadventureclearly…🤔
Not backwards. Spring goes in towards diff.
Good review but my one suggestion and a big pet peeve in watching reviews or listening to people speaking in front of people is when they say UMMM so much it’s like you’re trying to think of what you’re saying is the truth or not and makes it seem like you’re not sure of anything you’re saying so next time you do a review try and not say UMMM so much. In this video you said UMMM more than ten times and I am willing to bet you said it more than thirty times and it was getting on my nerves so bad where I almost didn’t finish the video
Not a public speaker. Sorry. 7 years old.
If you change the axle shaft what do you do with the vacuum lines at the transfer case? Any help is appreciated in advance!
They simply get blocked off. Same thing when you install a 4x4 posi lock cable.
@@jeffharvey9437 Thank you sir! So I can remove the lines.
I don't understand the issue with cable resistance. You move the cable manually not with little springs in the ox box. I'm going for the cable control.
On the new ox locker the cable only pushes but doesn't pull. The springs inside the carrier do the unlocking. I think he's trying to say that you can get stuck locked..
This would be the same as the collar engaged... That being said does that mean 4x4 is always engaged? Thanks for the Video
4x4 is not always engaged since the T-case is not engaged but yes, the front axles will spin on both sides. The driver side does anyways with or without the solid axle. It will essentially be like every other solid axle Jeep without CAD.